Official Windows Mobile 6.5 in April 2010?
Update: Revised timing on the MS Web site indicates a April 2010. I don’t know if i should laugh or cry.
Microsoft’s Windows Phone Web site reports we might be seeing an official Windows Mobile 6.5 release as early as February 2010. It not a done deal yet as we’ll have to wait on Samsung and AT&T to play nice.. and its still undetermined if a an official upgrade will fix all of the Epix’s issues, or if it’ll be a lot more like Trashcan’s unofficial release of Windows 6.5 for the Epix.
..and it wouldn’t be an Epix upgrade without the fine print:
* Not all models of these phones will be updatable. Check with your mobile operator to determine update availability.
** Dates provided by our partners and are subject to change. Update availability not guaranteed.
December 30th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
[...] Microsoft officially announced the Samsung Epix will get official Windows Mobile 6.5 support. There is no official word yet of when, but I suspect late October/early November of 2009. [Edit] It’s a Samsung Epix Update, what was I thinking? New reports indicate possibly in Feb 2010. [...]
December 30th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
this is still awesome! i really want to see what the official rom has is store for us epix users
January 4th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
I bet AT&T finds a way to screw it up for us somehow. But if not, this is great news.
January 10th, 2010 at 1:53 am
I’m happy enough with Trashcan’s ROM that I won’t be upgrading until a lot of people report the official version as bug free. If you have not tried the cooked 6.5 yet, I highly recommend it.
January 10th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Yes, it will be interesting what the “official” release will include (e.g. AT&T bloatware, new bugs). Seeing a fix for the finger mouse issue would be good (artifacts left over in the Trashcan ROM). I’ve been running the Trashcan ROM since November and I’m fine with it. Very few issues and the WinMo 6.5 interface has grown on me. However, we’ll see when they actually release the upgrade on time or at all. I see that the Omnia 2 is still “December 2009″.
January 10th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
I wonder if there will be very many custom roms. Also does anyone know how to dump the rom from the epix?
January 11th, 2010 at 8:34 am
OK, for those that are using Trashcan’s baked ROM… so are things like GPS, bluetooth and WIFI working properly? I’m itching to drink the 6.5 koolaide, but I’m one of the few that has a perfectly working GPS and I don’t want to break that trying out 6.5. Does the 6.5 upgrade enable touch scrolling throughout all applications or is it only certain apps?
January 11th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
@ CodeJockey: The WiFi works. I’ve tested it by turning off the phone portion and activating WiFi to connect to my wireless router. Bluetooth: I pair it with my old Treo bluetooth headset. GPS: well, that’s a bit of an issue. After changing the setting in GPStest to Standalone, it will work with Google Maps, although it takes a couple tries outside before getting a lock (my Epix suffers from the ID1 patch which affected it back in 6.1). Touch scrolling works for built in apps but not in some of the third party apps. I resort to the optical mouse for those apps (even with the mouse pointer artifact issue). I’d say that if you’re very concerned of messing up your phone with the ROM, hang tight for the official release.
January 12th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Win 6.5 has already been released for the Omnia II on samsungs support site. It just hasn’t been updated on the microsoft website. So hopefully when the site says Feb it actually will come out.
January 12th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
It worked like a charm does this mean its unlocked also?
January 13th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Why would Samsung and/ or AT&T spend resources on making the 6.5 available on Epix? It is a discontinued model & while I would love to have it, I don’t think anyone of them will do it. Please share your thoughts; I am not an expert in this field
January 14th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
It’s simple. Keeping phones to date keeps people from switching phones. Companies make more money with less phone switches.
January 14th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
As a previous guest asked, would this “official” update be available for the unlocked versions or will it only be only an ATT thing. Thanks
January 15th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
@ Elliot
This “official” AT&T ROM *should* work on any Samsung Epix (SGH-i907), locked or otherwise.
January 18th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
My feeling is that it’s probably Microsoft that is pushing more for the update on these older devices rather than AT&T or Samsung. I’m guessing it is to try and keep people from switching from the Windows platform to something else.
And while I don’t see a reason why AT&T/Samsung would want to spend resources on this, they are most likely working with Microsoft as part of a much larger agreement that was signed a while back when this probably looked a little more feasible. I read several posts over at XDA and other sites where the company reps were walking around with the Epix and the i780 months ago that already had 6.5 loaded, so it sounds like the work’s been done for some time (if the posts I read were true).
Of course I could be totally wrong…but either way I’m looking forward to the update just to see what they came up with. Personally I’ll probably be switching to an HTC next fall if the price isnt too crazy.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Anyone who has updated to 1D1 and did not perform the command line reset twice (i.e., *2767*3855#) should do immediately. Of course backup your system and data first to make it easier to restore. I did it last night along with setting the GPS option within the GPStest and now my internal GPS chip works again. Everything else seems to be functioning properly too. I did set the GPS to standalone / navigation / warm which is very important to keep device.exe from draining your battery.
January 18th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
will the update be wm 6.6 ?
January 20th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
I doubt it will be WM6.6 but again I could be wrong. The main part of 6.6 is that it will take full advantage of the touch-screen to allow for even more touch-friendly usage. Basically more “i-phone” like.
That said, I’m hoping that they design it as an upgrade that will work across all 6.5 phones that you can download from Microsoft directly. Otherwise it wouldn’t technically be an update, just a new version for just-released and upcoming phones.
January 20th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Just to clarify my original comment on taking “full advantage of the touch-screen” – 6.6 is supposed to support capacitive touchscreens, which is the kind that the i-phone has.
January 20th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
In response to the TheAxMan, yes, the hardware and drivers are all the same. The AT&T Epix even includes drivers for the front camera as well as the software (See /windows/).
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:25 pm
In South Korea market where Samsung’s headquarter is located, Samsung regretfully announced that WM6.5 upgrade for Omnia2 (carrier:SKtelecom) is postponed for 2 months. In contrast to Omnia2 for Verizon, the phone for SKtelecom originally comes with WM6.1 and Samsung promised that the phone can have WM6.5 upgrade until end of 2009. I hope my Epix will have WM6.5 next month. Yet, if same thing happens to Epix…..
January 28th, 2010 at 2:29 am
Looking at the ms site it looks like samsung is doing more than the other manufacturers for updating.
January 29th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Didn’t the Omnia 2 have an expected release date of January 2010? The site just got updated yesterday and it now says date unknown. Bad omen in my opinion…
February 1st, 2010 at 3:31 pm
its February weres my update
February 1st, 2010 at 3:54 pm
I second that… Where’s my update.
I would like to utilize my Epix’s features before purchasing a new phone…
February 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
so what are the chances of the epix getting 6.5.3?
February 3rd, 2010 at 8:42 am
baylorbear134 Says:
February 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
so what are the chances of the epix getting ?
(fixed)
February 3rd, 2010 at 8:43 am
(don’t think the epix will get Win 6.5 at all)
February 3rd, 2010 at 6:52 pm
In the meantime, just use SPB mobile shell, i’ve been using it on my Epix for more than a year now. I do hope though that we get 6.5.
February 4th, 2010 at 7:00 am
I’m sorry to see so many people here are so cynical about this. It’s on Microsoft’s website, which means Samsung has already paid for the licensing. @Danish, you must not rely on a 12 hour charge like I do, SPB Mobile Shell KILLS the Epix’ battery life because it’s “useful” features never stop updating. Kind of stupid if you ask me. I do enjoy the fact that unlike my previous phones, my Epix lasts 12-14 hours under normal usage. It lasted about 8 hours with SPB.
February 4th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Well the Omnia II update that was listed as November 2009 has changed to “Date not yet available” on MSFTs website. But on Samsung’s support webpage they took down an older update on Tuesday (Feb 2), maybe to get ready for the 6.5 update? If that happens and the Epix update follows the same route, hold on until May. Otherwise just get the cooked rom from XDA. My Epix runs great with it and SPB mobile shell. And after the ID1 fiasco Im not sure I would trust Samsung to do a great job on the update.
February 4th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Eh, I’m scheduled for an AT&T upgrade discount in Oct ‘10. I’ll take my chances with the offical Windows/Samsung release of 6.5 when it comes out. Don’t care if it breaks it somehow like ID1. I’ll just switch phones come October regardless.
If I get a touch screen phone again it will need to be capacitive instead of pressure sensitive. Can’t stand that on the Epix. Among all the other quirks/issues with the Epix, this is what stands out the most for me. The touch screen is so bad, they should have just avoided making it a touch screen and forced you to use the mouse pad (which I do like).
Let’s hope the February date holds true and the fresh look of Win 6.5 makes the phone more usable.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
@Thyme. I agree you do need to charge more often. I usually can get through a day if I don’t use bluetooth and Wifi is always off for me cuz 3G is good enuf. I usually put it on charge at night when i go to sleep.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Well, I finally got tired of waiting for the “official” 6.5 release. My Epix was acting up (random shutdowns, and my laptop would not sync), so I hit the ATT store last saturday to look in to an LG EXPO running 6.5. None in stock. As per usual visits to ATT store, I stipped and fiddled with an Iphone. The dark side finally won me over. After a week of using the Iphone, I don’t think I will ever look back at WM (although I will try 6.5 when it is released)
now for the jailbreaking….lol
February 5th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Ive tried the iPhone and the Bold, just cant manage to type emails on those screens correctly. I’m fine with qwerty + touchscreen model – i keep checking the website every day for the upgrade!
February 5th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
If the rumors are true, it’s just another 1 month and 5 days before I get my hands on a shiny new HTC HD2.
I know Feb 2010 means “sometime in / around Feb.” for ATT, but I really wish they would release the damn thing already so I could at least get 1 month of frustration-free use from my Epix before I move on to the HD2.
Besides, I want to flash my phone before I donate it to charity (I donate all my used phones). I want to donate something that’s less buggy and hopefully the WM6.5 ROM for the Epix will be that.
February 7th, 2010 at 1:21 am
I have, unfortunately given up on the epix and purchased an Iphone from a friend that had a cracked lcd. Bought a new lcd and will replace it asap. Hate to leave this group as mysamsungepix.com has given me some good times, especially with trashcan’s roms. But the epix is just so buggy that I cannot stand it anymore. So to all who care,
I wish you well on you adventures with the epix.
AJ
February 7th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Wonder why some Epix phones are so buggy while others are not. Anyone have a theory or clue?
Fortunately I am in the latter group with only the well known aGPS breakdown caused by ID1, rare lockups and an occasional loss of voice command audio through a bluetooth connection. In fairness the lockups and voice command audio loss only occur if the phone has been on continuously for several days and if I have multiple programs active. Plus the *276*3855# reset fixed the GPS for use in Standalone mode.
If I had one of those buggy Epix phones, it’d be long gone, either to a HTC model or the dark side (iPhone). As it is I’m hoping the promised WM6.5 update fixes the few remaining issues (for me). Assuming it does then I’ll be keeping this phone around for a long time as I really like its form factor and features.
February 7th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
also has anyone had any tarecordexecute (or something like it) problem on their epix? I constantly got that whenever i restarted.
February 8th, 2010 at 9:47 am
I’m fairly new to this forum and am surprised by the number of problems reported. I really didn’t have any issues other than the occasional system freeze but that usually happens cuz of some 3rd party software.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
I too have not had many problems with the Epix…
The ID1 update did crunch my GPS function… Patiently waiting for the update…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
“Очень полезная вещь”
February 12th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
I’m in the latter category also – have had the Epix for almost a year without much of any incidents. Use it for phone, contacts, e-mail, GPS, surfing, etc., etc., Once every other month or so I receive the slog dump message, but a quick restart fixes it. I’m very happy with the phone. Just want the 6.5 os to take better advantage of the touch screen.
February 14th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
agree with shore_guy other than the sound cutting out i prefere this phone over the iphone anyday but im loosing hope 2/14/10 and still nothing
February 14th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
I have to say i am very lucky from the items I read here both my wife and I use the Epix and when we do experience a problem it is usually related to a 3rd party app….
February 15th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Hi dude’s,
It is taking *****ing ages, before their is something for epix, because it has a damn square screen, i use like the most of us , spb (download it from isohunt 4free) and even i know it kill my battery i must use it because wm 6.1 has a crappy interface, and if you really cant wait fro wm6.5 , you can dl them from xda -developers….
have one small question does the update erase all my data(programs, and files)???
February 15th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
what is the link to download spb (download it from isohunt 4free)??? and is it a trial version?????
February 15th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Ben – Yes, when you install 6.5 it erases everything. You can find several free programs that will back up your data though.
February 16th, 2010 at 11:49 am
by putting up this February 2010 on the website, they’re just torturing us – release the ROM already!
February 16th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
I just got off the chat and off the phone with Microsoft regarding this update. Neither Microsoft, not Samsung can tell me anything about this update, pretty rediculous.
All I want is a fully functional phone, not a crappy update that renders my device useless.
Maybe someone else can get a bit farther than me on this…
February 16th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
what is the link to download spb (download it from isohunt 4free)??? and is it a trial version???
February 16th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/04/16/spb-pocket-plus-31/comment-page-5/
February 17th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Ooooh, 11 days left until February is over. WM 6.5 is coming our way!! LOL
I think I’m better off downloading the cooked version.
February 17th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
jduk: I’d like to cheer as well (btw, you can subscribe to static page changes in Google Reader – just put its url in New subscribtion textbox), but considering that Samsung and AT&T have no problem with delaying fixes by several months, I am afraid that I am checking the page a bit too eagerly…
February 17th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Yeah I catch myself checking the page every day as part of a routine. For some reason I don’t expect it to change anytime soon, next month it will probably still say it’s scheduled for Feb 2010.
February 17th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Me too — every freaking morning. Grr…
February 17th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
I second that.. I check every morning, first thing…
February 18th, 2010 at 1:20 am
… every morning.
Guess that means I’ll stay out of the way on day one then
February 18th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
at first it was every day now its like every 3rd day
February 19th, 2010 at 6:24 am
might see a price drop on the used market if it goes beyond March 1.
February 19th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Glad I have a SquareTrade warranty on mine…
Going to turn it in, due to the non-functioning features, if this update is not in before March.
February 19th, 2010 at 9:39 am
still no udpate, Im guessing its att working on integrating their crapware into the phone and cripple it. If att could figure a way to charge a nickle evertime you touch your phone they would.
February 19th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I’m assuming most of you don’t call Samsung about every other day, just to bug them about the software update?
With a little over a week left, I am starting to get a bit angry with this.
It’s like buying a car, and having a recall, but the recall won’t be available until 4 months down the road.
What a crock
February 19th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Sorry guys… those of us with prior experience with WinMo and Samsung/AT&T-promised updates have been through all this before with the BJ series. We tried passing on the stories but were met with derision, skepticism, and “it’ll be different this time!” posts. I understood those reactions as the news is unpleasant but I seriously recommend moving to another platform (and away from Samsung smartphones) that sees updates, such as Android or BB. I’m not trying to be a jerk, just trying to pass on my own experience and the best advice I can give.
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:11 am
they did realize the update for Jack – why not for Epix? It’ll come out but you have to depend on AT&T – plus I’m sure they’ll find a way to cripple Android updates also.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:12 am
Yeah I’m never going with Samsung again. It doesn’t surprise me the update is not out yet. I don’t really blame AT&T for all this, but it would have been nice if they gave us comparable replacement phones right away, instead of replacing with a new Epix, then forcing us to take a 4th replacement until we received a comparable replacement phone. Can’t wait until the Fall when I’m eligible for a discounted upgrade to a new phone.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:52 am
I give up on getting an update for my Epix! Mr Epix I love you, but you have bugs that need to be fixed!, I’m gonna miss you but I think I will fall inlove with my iPhone in no time @ all!
February 22nd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
This is driving me nuts- checking every day like most of you… I’ll reserve judgment until March 1st however.
February 22nd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Agreed, there are still roughly 6 1/2 days left in February but I don’t foresee anything happening on the weekend, so the chances of an update actually in February are starting to look grim. Meanwhile I’m researching my options for my upgrade date in 2 months and trying to decide whether to go to the HTC Tilt 2 or to the dark side with an iPhone. Both are great devices, however, the overall app store and standardization of the iPhone is winning me over at this time. A coworker with a HTC said to hold off that there’s a new Samsung coming out, no way, Samsung makes great TVs but as for the phones, I’ll avoid them like a plague from now on.
February 22nd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
As said before, I too am looking for my next device, due to the lack of functionality with Samsung’s software.
I am staying away from phones with moving parts, as I found out with my HTC 8525.
February 22nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
I got tired of waiting for the update and the bugs with my Epix and now have an HTC Pure. For the most part, it’s a good phone. I’ll stick with this one until the Windows 7 mobile phones are released. Have you seen these? Very sweet. I’m Zune HD owner so seeing Microsoft folding the UI into the new phones (including Zune for media files on the phone) is a great thing. I’ll still check for the Epix updates for the heck of it. I’ll always hold a special place in my heart for the quirky Epix, my first Windows mobile phone. You never forget your first.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:38 pm
No updates this month? I want it badly, especially because AT&T found out I have the phone just from me making calls, might as well spice it up for a $30 a month data plan that doesnt even include texting lol
February 23rd, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Waiting myself, got rid of the Epix a while ago, still partial to it, and want to see if the fix works. A side note, I got out of the Epix and moved to the Fuze, which I loved, until I lost it. Frustrating when AT&T wanted me to pay full price $548 for a new Tilt II to replace to fuze, so jumped ship to t-Mobile and an Android 3G phone. While I like it, it isn’t a WinMo phone and has limitations, I am just waiting for the HD2 to drop the end of march, as that is the ultimate phone right now.
On a side note, I live and work in manhattan, and I will say the Internet and phone were horrible on AT&T. I would not be able to reach the internet, and calls would either drop all the time, or just go to voice mail. Aparently, there are only 2 cell towers for the whole of downtown manhattan, and with the iPhones, they have limited capacity. No such problems here with t-Mobile…
February 24th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Tick tock tick tock…
February 24th, 2010 at 9:49 am
nygman, your service wasn’t bad in your area, AT&T honestly just plain sucks. I’m tethering with full signal as I type, and yet, I still have timeouts and dropped connections. I constantly hear the “New Voicemail” sound, only to pull out my phone and see it having full signal, and when I try to use keep-alive data apps, every 3 minutes, AT&T disconnects me from voice and data. I partially blame AT&T for being a terrible phone company, and I partially blame Apple, because the iPhone has caused AT&T to lock down their service A LOT (and is probably why the Facebook app for windows mobile no longer works)
February 24th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
I have the Windows Mobile Facebook app and it still works fine on my Epix.
February 24th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Yeah, my facebook still works on my Epix. As for AT&T sucking? I realize they have a lot of work to do and wireless may never be perfect, no matter how hard they try, there’s still probably going to be holes. They’re still a lot better than Sprint has ever been in Sprint’s own home town. And according to a press release on Monday, they’re beefing up their 3G network in Missouri a lot (I would guess other states as well), and then I read articles like this http://www.pcworld.com/article/189592/atandt_roars_back_in_pcworlds_second_3g_wireless_performance_test.html in PC World yesterday which make me not want to jump the gun to Verizon so fast. Plus the fact that Verizon is on a limited CDMA network anyways. As for the issues you’re having Thyme Cypher, I would think that the Epix itself might have some part of the blame, along with Samsung & Microsoft.
February 24th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
OK, two days left for AT&T to keep their promise.
How about if we make Monday March 1st, return-Epix-to-AT&T-day (provided they don’t keep their promise)?
February 24th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
epix is one hell of an awesome device. I got the most/buck. Cant get a comparable phone at $99(about an year ago). I think the form factor is amazing. The only problem for me i the gps doesnt work after the id1 update and it doesnt bother me as much as i only travel in the summer. as long as i get the new update before summer starts, i am very happy with samsung.
and ATT does not suck at all in the places i travel or live. I always had the best voice quality and best internet speed of any of my friends with other carriers. verizon has the slowest network.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
I switched to a BlackBerry Bold 9700 in December, and will never look back at the Epix. The BB is a similar form factor, but it’s fast & reliable.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
I was assuming it was my location, but alas, in multiple cities and states, Facebook only works over Wi-Fi.
And alas, where is our update?!
February 25th, 2010 at 12:29 am
if u r having problems with your connection here is the fix. it will give u all the settings u need for at&t, tmobile & a few other carriers. if your gps is not using the data connection it will also fix that and enable it to use the data connection. fix: go to the windows folder and scroll down till u c a program called gprsmgr.exe. click on gprsmgr.exe. ther is two arrows at the top. click on either one till u get to at&t use then click on save. wait about five seconds till it says provisioning secceeded. then close. now in start-connections-gprs authentication there should only b three settings. now your phone has the correct connection settings for at&t. there is also settings for a few other carriers built into the gprsmgr.exe program. soft reset and your gps should now work.
give it a rest with the 6.5 rom. it will b here. can u not wait? u r like 5yo kids waitin for Christmas. if u would actually read the microsoft site instead of just the dates u would know that the dates r subject to change. u cannot just write companies off cause they don’t do something when u want them to. u should b happy they r even willing to release any updates. if your gonna complain about problems with the epix then fix the problem and post the fix like i just did and stop complaining about the 6.5 update. u only want it cause u think its cool to have but after a week the newness will wear off.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:41 am
are they waiting for the 28th or something?!!
February 25th, 2010 at 8:44 am
It seems they are waiting until they find Jimmy Hoffa.
February 25th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
I think they will not spend their effort on Windows platform until Windows Phone 7 . I gave up Epix, today I purchased iPhone. I will not buy Samsung smartphone anymore.
February 25th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
I am really getting sick of the Epix. Bought it for $150 with a new 2 year contract at AT&T after using it a bit at the store, and thought that I was making a good decision. Don’t get me wrong, the Epix was a great phone for the first month or so. GPS worked perfectly, 3G and Wifi all perfect. I was enjoying my time with the Epix. Then comes along the ID1 update. I was excited to update it and gain new features/fixes, such as the ability to send MMS messages.
Update, everything seems to be going swimmingly, but alas, GPS stopped working? Hmmm… ok. As time goes on, I notice more issues. I will be texting people, waiting for replies, yet alas, nothing comes. 40 minutes to an hour later, the phone informs me, “Text Message Not Sent” and asks if I want to resend! So annoying, and this only gets fixed after I reset my phone.
I will never by a Samsung phone again if this is how they treat their customers.
Wish I bought a different phone when I started my new 2 year contract, but now I am stuck with this garbage.
February 26th, 2010 at 12:08 am
samsung did not force u to do the id1 update. i never do any update on any phone till i read the forums to c if people r havin problems with the software. i propably will not update to 6.5 when they release it either. maybe its a fluke but i have a pre id1 epix and the only problem i have had that id1 was supposed to fix was with the ringtone. but i fixed that myself. i never got a slogdump error. i have done everything wtth the epix. edited video and audio on the epix. use tomtom on the epix. used the epix as a wifi router. shared internet through bluetooth and usb connections. i could c myself still using the phone even after i upgrade this summer. i got my epix on amazon.com a couple weeks after it was released for $5.98 new. amazon is the cheapest place to upgrade. thats just my experience with the epix. just like any electronic device some will experience problems. i think its the best device i have had to date. my bad experiences with other devices have made the epix great. my number one rule with cell phone is to never put software on it until i know its safe to do so and never blame someone else if the software malfunctions.
February 26th, 2010 at 12:14 am
honestly, i give up on samsung… gonna get the new iphone in june when it comes out
February 26th, 2010 at 1:49 am
same here.. Never ever buy samsung phone.
I begin to think.. what an interesting concept Apple has! One type of phone. Update and maintain that phone.
Not like samsung.. release 10 or more phones a year and don’t care about them.
How sick is this philosophy.. I even stopped short of buying samsung TV. Looking for better others.
Bye bye samsung.
February 26th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Not surprised one little bit about the fact that the Epix update is not out when they said it would be.
Why? Because of the past record of accomplishment of Samsung and the Blackjack, and the Blackjack II, or should I say the lack there of.
Both of those devices were to have an update on a certain date and both times the dates came and went without a sound from Samsung giving us a hit that the 6.0 or the 6.1 update will be available.
I do believe it was something like 6 moths after the promised release of the 6.0 for the original Blackjack that they had the release finally available.
We were told by our account rep at ATT that there were issues with the update and that more work was needed, but did Samsung tell us this, NO! They kept telling us the update would be out soon.
So when it comes to the Epix I am not in the least surprised that the update is not out, they do have a few days left, so I could be proven wrong and in this case I would like to be, but if I were to bet I would double down that they are not going to make it out with an update for this device anytime soon.
February 26th, 2010 at 8:53 am
they never said the 6.5 update would happen this month. they estimated it could happen this month. r u not reading past the date posted on microsoft? it clearly says that the dates r subject to change and may never b available. the dates posted r not definate and it says that so y get mad? i have watched the microsoft site for over a year and every date put up has been pretty accurate so far. either the updates have come out in the month posted or have always been available when the site was updated by the end of the next month. in December 2009 there were two updates that were posted for December\January and were both available by the end of January. one of the updates that came in January was the samsung jack. i am confident that a 6.5 update will b here atleast by mid March and i would even bet on it. stop stressin. u people r makin windows mobile owner look like babies. i love reading forums on the epix when people share tips tricks & fixes but this forun has turned into a bunch of unitelligent whiners that want everthing their way and blame great companies that don’t have to even give an update. if u can’t wait for 6.5 then cook up a rom yourself and stop complaining.
February 26th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Well… The cooked ROM would be fine except I heavily use the mouse and it has some graphics issues. Aside from that, has anybody noticed any other problems? Does the camera app work well with it? I use my camera quite a bit.
…I don’t use the GPS so ID1 is just fine for me, but I can see why people get so angry. This phone has been my ideal smartphone in the form factor, no moving parts, keyboard and touch screen. Its the next step down from my netbook. If I relied on the GPS and had the issues that many here have, I would be a bit anxious for this update as well… It’s a feature, it’s advertised, it SHOULD work without problems.
So, while my wife loves up her iPhone- ( Awesome device in its own right, but aside from jail-breaking it is meant to be a closed system, and I don’t care for that- it’s why I stick with windows mobile ) I’ll keep my Epix either way…
…But that update would sure be nice
February 26th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
porkenhimer obviously works for AT&T or Microsoft
February 26th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
i don’t work 4 anyone. i am just grown up. i can wait for 6.5 cause i ain’t planning on updating till its out 4 a couple weeks anyway. i would just rather read a forum full of useful stuff about the epix instead of a bunch of whining. i am correct about thecmicrosoft site. read it yourself. it says dates r subject to change. anybody should know that means that it might not come out this month. u r stupid.
February 26th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
No, it’s stupid to say it’s our fault for not reading forums before updating our phones. If an update is made available by AT&T/Samsung, we should be able to assume that update has already gone through rigorous testing. We shouldn’t assume every update will mess up your phone. Can’t believe your defending AT&T/Samsung when they clearly didn’t test the update very well at all.
Now, I fortunately didn’t install the ID1 update. But get this, I still have issues with my phone. Random times where it won’t wake up, the sound quits working and requires reboot, etc. Even playing mp3’s, it will “stutter” in the middle of the song and just not play smoothly the whole way through. Call this whining if you want, I’m all “grown up” too, but I expect more from a phone of this price. If you’re fine with the issues, good for you. AT&T/Samsung must love consumers like you.
Re: the Microsoft date, I think we are all familiar with the statement that dates are subject to change. But why post a date at all if you don’t intend to hit that target? Why not just post Spring 2010? Or why haven’t they actually changed the date on the site yet since they obviously aren’t going to make it?
February 26th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
well if u would actually read the site u would know that its only updated once a month and thats propably y they have not changed it. the last update january 28. even if the micrisoft site gets updated today and it comes out tomorrow it will not say its available till the end of March when the site is updated again. u r lookin in the wrong place for the 6.5 update. look on samsung.com for software updates for the epix cause it will say its available on there before it will ever say its available on the microsoft site. the microsoft site just estimates it will b available in that month but not that it actually will b available in that month or will ever b available. thats y they put the disclaimer. seems like the postal service is the only company that garantees dates and even they sometimes don’t get it right. 3-5 weeks sometimes turns into 2 months.
February 26th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
microsoft will probably update their site when the update becomes available. that will probabably be the reason they update that site. not just once a month for no reason that makes little sense.
February 26th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
no it would make sense. there r other reasons they would update once a month. they would add new devices to the list and set estimated dates for devices that they have not set dates for yet.
February 26th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
porkenhimer, I figured I’d give it a try to see if it would fix the Facebook issue. Alas, as I figured, it did not. Oh well.
February 26th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Has anyone tried to use the phone with a foreign SIM? Mine is unlocked and I’m using a SIM from Telcel in Mexico and the phone reboots endlessly as soon as it registers into the network. The same happens to the I900, as it seems they are just versions of the same system. I hope to see a fix to the radio rom in the update, not only Windows Mobile.
February 26th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
i am using facebook and i never had a problem with it. i am using 1.1.0.17 and befire that was using 1.1.0.14. they both worked fine. my advice would b to remove the facebook app and then make sure u remove the registry entry if it is not deleted when u remove the program then softreset and reinstall facebook. it makes no sense that it would not work if u have a connection unless it malfunctioned during install. ut has happened to me with other programs but i just deleted the program and registry entries and it was fine after reinstalling.
February 26th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Porkenhimer, how did you fix the ringtone issue without the ID1 update? I’d like to be able to fix that as well without the ROM update. Thanks
February 26th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
@ ASK –> i used a foreign SIM for 2 weeks without any issue last year on my unlocked phone. Do make sure it’s unlocked, i thought mine was but it wasn’t. I had to call support again to get it unlocked.
February 26th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
@danish -> Thank you but I’m sure the phone is unlocked. The problem is that UMTS (3G) support for (U)SIMs other than AT&T’s is broken (and likely, future versions of their own SIMs are likely to fail as well, due to non standard compliance). With GSM-only (2G) SIM cards the phone presents no problems, I’ve tested this myself. This issue has been observed in several phones due to broken radio firmware. Look at this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards BEWARE!
February 26th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
I may be missing something but where is the windows files located on menu?
February 26th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
I’ve done all the typical debuggery. Reinstalled, fully cleaned, etc., it may be my account, who knows?
February 27th, 2010 at 1:30 am
Hey. It’s a LEAP YEAR!
February 27th, 2010 at 1:30 am
… actually no.
February 27th, 2010 at 4:55 am
Joe to fix the ringtone u can use the cab that makes the ringtone full instead of ascending. u can find the fix on this site in hacks and mods. u can also download the clean 6.1 rom which already has the ringtone fixed. plus it has all the at&t firmware removed which gives u a few MBs more for memory.
whereistheupdate the windows file is in your file explorer. just open the explorer and u will find it.
Tyme Cypher u might wanna try to log into facebook using the phone number u used when u signed up for facebook with. when u sign into facebook u do not have to use your email. u can also use your phone number instead. if u use your email make sure u type it out exactly like it is. the email and password r case sensative on facebook. if u have a connection u can use facebook no matter where u r in the world or what carrier u have. sometimes u just gotta say fuck it and hard reset your epix if nothing else works that propably will.
February 27th, 2010 at 8:47 am
here is a small fix for the epix if u r using opera mini 5 installed by cab. ok here is the problem. if u r using opera mini 5 and u minimize it then open it back up the screen will b white and it will say exit and resume on the softkey bar. sometimes when u hit resume the screen just turn white. here is the fix. if the screen turns white and opera does n resume just hit the start menu button and when the start menu pops up click the mouse one time on the white area and opera mini 5 will resume. it also works for other java programs that do the same thing.
February 27th, 2010 at 8:58 am
i forgot to write that the opera mini 5 fix also works with the ok button too. if u hit resume after u have minimized opera mini 5 and the screen turns white u can hit the ok button to minimize again then click on the opera mini 5 icon and when it opens it will b resumed. it only works with the ok button and start button. not really a big fix but it saves u from having to restart opera mini 5 and enables u to keep browsing.
February 27th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Porkenhimer, I may have to hard reset anyway. Then again, I’m about to call AT&T and tell them to cancel my contract because their towers are STILL (this has always been an issue) rejecting my SIM. I thought it was the phone, but I’ve always had the issue of AT&T disconnecting me from the network (data and cellular) every few minutes, despite being ~1500 feet from an AT&T antenna. Often times, for up to 10 minutes at a time.
February 27th, 2010 at 11:35 am
i used to have a problem with my connection too. i called at&t cause sometimes it would take me upto an hour to connect to the internet. they said there was a problem with the tower in my city and it would b fixed within a month and i have never had a problem since. there is a tower less than 3 miles from me and another less than 10 miles away and i have never gotten a 3g connection. my connection is strong though without 3g. my brother is on verizon and i have a stronger connection on edge than he gets on 3g. he has a blackberry bold. so u might call at&t and ask if other people in your area r havin data connection problems. they will tell u if other people have complained.
February 27th, 2010 at 11:39 am
another tip is to call at&t and ask them to credit u for a free sim card cause some at&t stores charge $20 for a new sim card and when u go to at&t they will give it to u for free. make sure if your store does charge that u call at&t first so u won’t b charged.
February 28th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
last day in feb and no update, i love my phone more then anything but this its in desperate need for an update, this was a big let down
February 28th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
how is it a let down? it says this “** Dates provided by our partners and are subject to change. Update availability not guaranteed.” at the top of this page and on the microsoft site. stop complaining!
February 28th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
They shouldn’t even suggest an update unless they’re mostly sure, and by mostly sure, I mean they could give PR as to why there are delays. That’s why it’s a letdown.
February 28th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Also porkenimer, no, nobody else has the issue. I’m starting to assume it’s my sim, as I’ve had the same issues since I switched to AT&T, but I need to test it on another phone to be sure.
February 28th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Well I for one am in the same boat. I have Trashcan’s cooked rom and so far it’s working ok, but would rather get the “official” update if for nothing less than the phone portion of the rom. I can’t put 100% blame on Samsung for this as part of any delay in release is not just them but also AT&T and their “modifications” that are needed to make it work right on their towers and the all the useless bloatware to throw in. I have to wonder how much of the phone is broken because of Samsung’s shoddy coding versus poor integration by AT&T. Between my spouse and me, we’ve gone through 3 Epix’s and both are now past warranty. Her issue is the worst as both her phones resulted with the touchpad completely dieing. Mine is still good but plagued with the ID1 update that (mostly) breaks GPS use. Any refurb replacement will automatically have the ID1 update applied before you get it so replacements are pretty much pointless.
With MS making that announcement for Win phone 7, any work on WinMo 6.5 is almost pointless if for nothing more than keeping us suckers happy for a few more months before there’s a buggy Win7 phone.
Our 18mo sentence is up in April and at that point I’ll be hunting for something else while she’s going to be a disciple of the Church of Jobs with whatever iPhone is available. Just have to wonder how raped will Android be after AT&T is done with it.
And Porkhiemer, before you go defensive… I like the Epix… at least the theoretical version of it. It has a good form-factor, and friendly design even with a stylus tucked away for fine work. Any complaint is simply with both Samsung and AT&T for taking this good design and failing miserably–and repeatedly–to make it work like it’s suppose to.
February 28th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
LostSoul3471, you make many great points here, but I have to agree more that AT&T did the damage than Samsung. Much like a lot of my faulty phones, I read around that the Epix was planned for release 3-6 months later than it did, and naturally, AT&T was all “gimme”. Rushed devices are never worth anything. LG Incite? Terrible and VERY rushed.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:48 am
Been checking Microsoft, AT&T, and samsung sites every couple of days too. From my iPhone. Lol. I do miss my epix though. Just couldn’t take the crappy browsers. Even skyfire was slow. Tried trashcans rom, but I also lean pretty heavily on the mouse. One of the main reasons I got the epix was the touchpad. Oh well.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:58 am
Samsung and ATT should be embarrassed. The Epix has had serious issues from the day it was sold! An “Official Upadate – ID1″ created more bugs and broke features of the phone. This shows a lack of commitment to their products because if they both allocated the correct resources to these issues, they would have been solved long ago.
I purchased a samsung LN52A850 LCD television a while ago for like $3000. It had an IR interference problem that caused all remotes in the room to not function while the TV was on. Samsung dragged their feet for months saying there was no problem. They released a firmware update that broke the TV and luckily I was able to find the old firmware and revert it back. After four months of harassing them they admitted that there was a problem and replaced the inverter boards in the TV. It worked. But it took the constant harassing of many online people in forums to get the TV’s fixed.
At the end of the day Samsung has terrible support. The worst I have ever seen in my life. I am an Engineer and would be embarrassed to work for a company like SAMSUNG.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:04 am
Well as predicted, the date has come and gone and no 6.5 update is available.
I have been trying to get to this site to post for some time, but it is completely unavailable, perhaps the flood of crybabies that have come to, well cry moan and complain that a date was not made yet again by Samsung.
I know there are some, I mean one, that thinks that we are a bunch of crybabies about this and that we expect to get what we want when we are told that it would be made available to us.
I for one am complaining because I deal with this all the time and it is time that Samsung start delivering on its dates. This is not a MS problem from what I can see. They are just providing a single location that customers can come and see what is available and when.
For those that have been to the MS site in the distant past, you will remember that the Epix had a date of “Not yet Available” it changed after the first of the year to be February 2010, leading us to believe that an update was on its way out.
Well it is now March and Samsung is closed lipped about it, just like the first Black Jack when it was to have an update out for 6.0
I have called our rep and have tried to call Samsung to get an update, all to no avail. Person I talked to at Samsung says it will be available soon, but would give no clear data as to when.
Well the last time I was told soon it was nearly 8 months until it was released. Therefore, that is what I have to base my opinion on!
I would be fine if Samsung would be up front and say the following,
Due to some unforeseen issues, we are currently unable to meet our delivery dates as was first indicated. We apologize for any inconveniences this may cause you, but we wish to deliver a solid release for you are loyal customers. We are planning on the release to be available for you soon and we will have updates once we have finalized the testing. Thank you for your understanding and continued support.
Do this and the bleeding will be minimized, too late to stop it all together.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:07 am
Epix-User,
I’m sure porkenheimer will come to Samsung’s defense again in regards to the lack of support you’ve received for your TV. I think what it comes down to, is that some people just expect more. When you spend $99, $199 or whatever the Epix cost when you got it, some people expect it to work the way it’s supposed to. The update to fix the problems caused MORE problems. I don’t understand how anyone can defend that. OK, he says, read forums before installing updates. OK, check. But even without the ID1 updates, I STILL have issues with the phone.
That is why we are hungry for the official update from Microsoft. Finally something that MIGHT fix our phone so we can actually use it like… well, a smartphone. So it’s just salt in the wound when Microsoft sets a release date of Feb 28 (yes, even though it IS a tentative date) to tease us. Actually, it doesn’t even bother me too much anymore, I’ve already decided to never purchase a Samsung again, and perhaps even switch from AT&T altogether.
March 1st, 2010 at 10:00 am
jduk, leaving AT&T is an excellent idea. i’d do it myself if not for contracts, and despite the “fad” of hating Sprint, they were the best company to me. i’ve gotten over $600 in free services and products from sprint. As for leaving Samsung, next to my Palm Treo 800w, all my best phones were samsung. Even my first phone, the Samsung-SPH620 (i believe) was very durable. survived a washing machine with only a few unusable buttons and camera. again, samsung is probably not to blame, it’s AT&T and their “final touches.”
March 1st, 2010 at 11:10 am
You guys couldn’t have in all seriousness believed that a posted date of 2/2010 would actually mean an update being released in February! For a fleeting instant, I considered WM 6.5 on my phone before the snow in my backyard melted, but quickly dismissed it as porkenhimer’s “childhood Christmas fantasy.”
For me personally, the Epix presents the best formfactor ever (without the hideous interface of BB). It also has the best camera I have ever had on a phone.
However, in terms of the WM reliability, it’s without doubt, the worst phone ever.
From the sound suddenly and mysteriously dying on me, to the whimsical battery life yanked around by the quirks of an errant LED indicator, to the phone screen just turning on without rime or reason (which results in some unspeakable mishaps while the phone’s in my pocket), to the ring tone resetting to AT&T’s default tone. Yes, the problems are numerous and egregious.
At this point, I don’t even care about the broken GPS, which I have never been able to get to work (since I’ve owned the phone). Or the minor irritations such as the Internet rendered unreachable (probably by some weird race condition in which if you sometimes turn on Bing before the GPRS connection, you can never ever get the Internet until you soft-reset). Or the general slowness of the phone (which might be just a “virtue” of the platform).
So to have the upgrade would have been good thing. Good thing that is, if it didn’t bring brand new Samsung/ATT follies to fore.
I for one am not holding my breath for WP7 seeing as how it’s primarily a stunt to meet heads on with iPhone. The gadget freak in me is appropriately curious, but the business user side of me, which primarily uses the phone for typing emails and browsing the Web is not enthused by the fact that the only formfactor likely being considered is the sideways keyboard one (a la Tilt), which I tried and detested. As so many of you have already declared, I would like a phone with a tactile keyboard where I don’t have to employ a gimmick to start typing.
I figure I’ll give Samsung and AT&T until May to get their ducks lined up, after which the Epix becomes my daughter’s problem, and I get a brand new Glisten.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:42 pm
So.. March… such a beautiful month! Greening trees, birds flitting about the clouds, grass between my toes and a psychotic phone in my pocket……
It’s time to fix one of these things….. one of these things is not like the others……
I’m no longer waiting for the 6.5 update, it’s a fruitless venture, it’s never going to fix the near infinite stresses that this phone can and enjoys presenting on any given day / call.
On the 7th of March, AT&T is releasing the Motorola Backflip, it looks awesome, and it has Android!!!!
Fuck the Epix, all i wanted was a fun robot pal who’s fun to be with. What i received was a technological nightmare with an even more temperamental battery.
When i get my new phone i’m going to see if i can pitch the epix thru the Sheetrock in the AT&T store… “Finally, the Epix has broken my expectations!” i shall proclaim, “i thought this brick would act like a phone and shatter, but instead, it worked just like the brick it is!!!!”
This will be an awesome day =)
March 1st, 2010 at 12:44 pm
just cause i refuse to lower myself to comlaining about an update for my phone does not mean i totally support samsung. i am just a grown up who has other shit like bills and family to think about. if i was gonna complain about something on a forum it would b some real shit. something that effects my life and others lifes and not some mundane bullshit like a wm6.5 update. this forum was great till u stupid fuck started complaininf about how samsung sucks then at&t suck then microsoft suck. u can’t even get straight who u wanna blame. fuckin idiots.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Wow, porkenheimer, way to pull out the Jr. High vocabulary there. I agree with you that there is a lot of complaining here, and as for me, I was pretty skeptical of the February date posted by MS, however I do agree with you again that they did slip in their nice disclaimer. I don’t think any of the three major parties are totally free from blame, however let me ask you this. Would you buy a brand new luxury car, all of the nice gadgets that you pay extra for and expect to work (say GPS, built-in speaker phone, sunroof, leather seats, the whole shebang) and be okay with the GPS freezing up, phone not working, and the car stalling every 150 miles? Would you not take it back to the dealership and expect them to fix it? And then they say, “hey, we have a fix for it, but you’ll have to wait at least a week, meanwhile feel free to keep driving it.” Would you still wait after two with no complete fix? I think you’d be a little furious, and lemon laws would eventually protect you in your situation.
In the same regards, we as consumers expect that when we pay a decent amount for a product that we get decent customer support in return. In the wireless world, all one has to do is look at Sprint to see what the lack of customer service can do to a company.
In the end, this is a forum! A place where people can share thoughts and information about a product.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
i called at&t they said that there is one update sceduled for samsung in the near future but it was not for the epix and knew nothing about a rom update for the epix. he put me on hod for about 15 minutes then said he taked to someone in research & development at samsung that said they know nothing about the epix update and that microsoft makes all the roms and if there was a rom comin that microsoft would have notified them by now. they are aware of the date on microsoft but have heard nothin from microsoft. he then said that samsung advised him that maybe the date was meant to b for the omnia 2. i had hope that it was comin too but i might give up now.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Porkenimer:
Clearly your a f*ing idiot too. Since you have the time to read through the forum a trash everyone on it despite your “grown-up” responsibilities. What are you like 12 years old? People are allowed to complain about a couple of hundred dollar brick that we all purchased. If you don’t like the subject in the forum do somthing else with your valuable “grown-up” time.
March 1st, 2010 at 1:40 pm
i guess im an idiot i was thinking they were going to to the update before the end of the month
March 1st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
maby they scraped 6.5 maby they might make windows phone 7 update for it
March 1st, 2010 at 1:47 pm
the subject of the forum is to provide the best tips hints tricks hacks & software for the epix. anyone thats reads this forum has to read through the garbage to get to the good post. u ain’t smart enough to comprehend. its called mysamsungepix not ihatesamsungepix. if u don’t like the phone and can’t wait for an update but something else. pay the $75 early termination and u can get a tilt2 for $0.01 on amazon. i get all my phones on amazon and they usually charge me $5.98. got blackberries & windows mobile phones for just shipping & handling. there is no trick u just fill out the form and pick your plan and u got a new phone in less than a week. called this number 800-936-5700 for microsoft and was told the only imformation they could give was whats on the site and was told to keep watchin the site.
March 1st, 2010 at 2:06 pm
come on guyz listen to porker. no more whining plz. also, grow up, aight?!! lolzx10020345
March 1st, 2010 at 2:51 pm
i am cool with the official update not coming out. now can we get
a fix for the mouse? i have got the gps workin and mms but the
mouse is just a pest. i am sure there is someone here that can
figure it out. LETS FIX THE MOUSE!
March 1st, 2010 at 3:35 pm
how did u get mms workin??
March 1st, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Dear John,
Thank you for your inquiry. There is no update currently for the SGH-I907 nor is there an estimated date of one being released. We do apologize for the inconvenience.
How Can I Get A Firmware Update On My Phone?
Samsung does not release “firmware updates” to the public. These updates are released strictly to Service Providers, who then distribute them to customers.
For more information, we recommend contacting your local Service Provider for details. Below is a list of contact information for the major Service Providers.
March 1st, 2010 at 6:08 pm
well i tried all 3 companies today and got the run around by all of them
March 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm
3 REQUESTS
– has anyone got a link to known good stock AT&T 6.1 original firmware
– has anyone got a link to known good cleaned up 6.1 firmware that does not break anything else?
– anyone want to dump their mint Epix?
(see site for contact info)
1 COMMENT
Anything to do with software releases is essentially a creative work. It is not a science. That means doing it right, or even close to right takes as long as it takes.
Everyone saw the result of ID1. That was in all likelihood a rush job because it was early in the marketing cycle of the Epix. It’s hard to sell something that seems broken.
Now that the Epix is off the market, there is less time pressure. Maybe they will do it right. At least be thankful that there is a public intention to make the update available.
After all, while it will contain fixes, it is also a version upgrade.
The version upgrade is more than generous. It is also harder to do than just a fix.
Take a look at the list again. There lots of phones which aren’t on the list at all, never mind any slippage in dates.
Everyone misses deadlines. Some of those deadlines were a lot easier than delivering a version upgrade on rom. Who are we talking about? Just look in the mirror.
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:54 am
isnt it funny how its not februrary anymore, and how i foresaw this…lol
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:52 am
Maybe the date is a typo, should be Feb 2011.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:10 am
I use to have a BJII and last year upgraded to an Epix. I’ve been happy with both phones, I upgraded for the touch screen, Wi-Fi, and mouse. I also applied the ID1 fix as soon as I got the phone and everything on my phone still works fine, including mouse, GPS, and MMS, which I’ve seen discussed here as potential issues. I guess I’ve been lucky. I am looking forward to upgrading to 6.5, but I have Spb Mobile Shell so the interface is already pretty good.
Now, back to work so I don’t miss my release date!!
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
An upgrade to Win7 on this phone,,, lol, AT&T will say, “yah sure, send your phone in so that we can re-fill the headlight fluid, flush your 6.5 rom from Trashcan, and give you a great big hug for holding onto this phone for months longer than anyone else (because Obama got us a little to hopefull about everything! love the man, but seriously).” this right after they fix the sheetrock at the local AT&T dealer that i’m going to make a mess of, so bare with them if they are a little busy.
Hey porkenimer, most of the whining in this forum has been you whining about the whining, so quit being a mathematical dipshit and extending all of our whining buffers into the red.
STFU and long fuck the brick =)
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:20 pm
fuck u chris. quit braggin bout how your gonna mess up walls cause u ain’t gonna do shit. there is alot of whining on here by peeons lije u that can’t wait for an update so they wanna blame someone and break their phone. your a joke.
March 2nd, 2010 at 3:53 pm
porker getting frustrated guyz plz leave him alone, he has grown up things to do
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Fact: The Samsung Epix is a phone that was pushed to market without being fully tested
Fact: Samsung has not addressed the issues with the Epix in a manner consistent with a “fully supported” product from a company that makes commercially saleable products
Fact: I plan on gently dipping my balls onto Samsung’s forehead as payback for the UBER FRUSTRATING past 18 months of my life (when I’ve been stuck with this POS phone)
Fact: porkenimer does not use upper case characters because an upper case character killed his or her dog during their youth
Fact: Whining on this board will not force Microsoft or Samsung to release an update any faster
Fact: Whining on this board does (most likely) make the whiner feel a bit better because they have shared their passionate frustration with a community that shares a similar interest
Fact: Writing facts in a linear fashion, with all of them being preceded by “Fact:”, does not make any of your statements factually accurate
In Summary: The Samsung Epix is, and has been since the date of its launch, a substandard phone, and one which is leaving my daily use the moment my fahcking contract with AT&T is up.
Suck it MySamsungEpix Community!
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:23 pm
There will be no Windows 7 Mobile for the Epix- Microsoft said that only new phones will have it.
March 3rd, 2010 at 8:14 am
Well said Tron Bike.
Re: upper case characters, porker’s life is too busy to be messing with pressing the Shift key. He has bills to pay and a family to take care of. We wouldn’t understand. Leave him alone, he’s a adult, OK?
March 3rd, 2010 at 1:05 pm
jduk every post u have wrote has been a complaint. u r fuckin stupid. check out these capitol letters, FUCK YOU. u can sit on here all day and write what u want cause i already know u can’t fuck with me. u only want 6.5 so u can b cool and tell your friends about it. UI is the only difference in 6.1 & 6.5 and 6.5 is just not as good as 6.1. so u can get mad like a little bitch and write what u choose cause u r just makin yourself look stupid as fuck. u r the type that ruins these forums for people and complains just to complain. knows nothing about these devices but just want a phone based on how cool u think it is. so i know u’ll respond cause thats what u do but u can save it cause i will pay no attention to u. i said u was a peeon and that means that your a peeon.your a super hater. hatin through a website. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
March 3rd, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Hey porker, if I wanted a phone to show off how “cool” my phone is, I would have gotten an iPhone. All I wanted was a Windows Mobile phone that WORKED. The Epix did NOT WORK AS IT SHOULD HAVE. So, excuse me, but you’re gonna hear a lot of complaints when a phone has as many issues as the Epix does. Who are you to decide what content is listed on this forum anyway? Are you the site admin? By the way, heard of the recalls on the Toyota’s accelerator issue? I bet there’s people complaining on car forums because of that situation. That must be driving you nuts. Have a good day
March 3rd, 2010 at 3:51 pm
its not upto me whats listed on here but all u do is complain. i am fure there r people complaining on every forum about everything. u r not interested in tips or fixes though all u wanna do is complain.my epix is great cause i made it great by takin advice from others on many forums and using my own knowledge of windows mobile devices. its like when netcf 3.7 came out and people wanted it cause they assumed it would b better cause it was new then they realized 3.5 was better cause 3d apps won’t work on 3.7. they figured the problem out cause they asked for a fix when they complained. all u r doin is puttin down the epix and not even carin about nothin except for when u can put an official 6.5 rom on it. every problem i have had has been fixed. this is absolutly the best device i have had. not the coolest but by far the best. list of problems
gps not workin
mms not workin
data connection not workin
beejive not workin
coreplayer & tcpmp not workin
java not workin
phone freezing up when charging
ringtone not workin
assigned buttons not workin
internet sharing not workin
cm wifi internet sharing not workin
wifi not working
ie not browsing at all
plus several more. all problems were fixed because i stopped complaining and started askin for help if i could not fix it myself.
March 3rd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
“Please don’t feed the trolls.”
March 4th, 2010 at 12:25 am
*gasp*
Porkenhimer – are you a troll?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40
March 4th, 2010 at 3:16 am
Try my version of TCPMP.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5784761&posted=1#post5784761
March 4th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Porky,
I love my Epix for starters, but there are people that expect some of the features to work better than they are currently, and they don’t. They are frustrated and find one of the few places on this vast internet where their phone is the focal point so that’s naturally where they discuss how they are feeling about it. For you to come in here and take it upon yourself to chastise everyone, ESPECIALLY in the manner that you do so ( ” U LOOK LIKE UR TXTING YOU BFF MELANIE ABOUT DA NU HANNA MONTANNA EPISODE ” which leads US to believe you are likely 16… let alone the profanity and “Tuff Stuff” insults ) is funny.
… So throw the **** YOU, HOWZ DAT? my way, call me names, I’m whiney and you are the big man LOL…
Because you know everyone cares so much!!!
March 4th, 2010 at 9:45 am
well it’s not like AT&T & Samsung have been on time before but you know they have released the update for the Jack. That fact alone makes me believe an update for the EPIX will be released. Maybe they just need more time. As it stands, we’ll never know the exact facts behind how this works. All we know is that MS has EPIX listed which means that they might even have given the update to AT&T & Samsung. Now it’s up to them. All we can do is wait. Arguing in this forum isn’t going to help any one.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Fact: Official date for the 6.5 release for Epix has been pushed out to April 2010:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
Fact: Disappointment warshest over TronBike
March 4th, 2010 at 10:42 am
The next date for total disappointment and shock that it was not released is now April 30 then. lol.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:49 am
its a conspiracy
March 4th, 2010 at 11:01 am
I think danish said it perfectly – “As it stands, we’ll never know the exact facts behind how this works.” We can complain all we want, but it’s not going to make them release the update sooner.
And if you are continuing to have problems, why not check out the resources available to you now? XDA dev has a ton of information on fixing several of the issues. And although some are a bit more complicated than others, it might be enough to at least get you started.
Like many others, I have also had my fair share of problems with this phone. But I’ve also learned a bunch of how Windows Mobile works and what you can do with it. I absolutely love using Mortscript and being able to create simple utilities to make using the Epix that much more enjoyable. All it took was a bunch of reading and researching and a whole lot of hard resets, but my phone works great now. I’m stopping short of loading the lastest build from trashcan mainly because of the promise of an official update and some of the cursor issues others are experiencing but I haven’t ruled it out yet.
I do think that everyone here has a right to complain about their phone not working correctly – if you plunked down a large chunk of dough for this phone, you deserve to at least have it work correctly without freezing, errors, etc.
But the phone has been out for over 17 months now and is steadily getting outdated by newer and hopefully better models. If you want to keep using your phone or if you are unfortunately still under a contract, I definitely recommend doing the research to make your phone work better. There are a lot of tweaks and utilities and guides on this site that you may or may not have already tried that will help your phone.
The fact they are trying to get another update out to us means that hopefully it will last even longer, but I take that with a large grain of salt.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Well… it’s at least a LITTLE encouraging that they updated the release date…. hopefully that’s a sign that they didn’t just abandon it, but as said before.. We just don’t know.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:06 am
It just got updated a few minutes ago to April 2010!?!?!?!?!
What the heck, come on already. I had to get a Treo Pro because I couldnt use my darn Epix, and it was out of contract so it costs $$$
March 4th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Yeah don’t get me wrong, I use mortscript too, customized the interface to my liking. That was awesome and fun to learn. That’s why I got Windows Mobile over the iPhone, easier to mod. But the issue with not waking up and random no volume are the two big things I wish were fixed. Anything on the xda developers site to address those issues?
April 2010.. the next countdown begins.
March 4th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
For anyone that is about ready to give up on their Epix and has tried using other various tweaks and workarounds – have you tried using trashcan’s 6.5 rom? I would definitely try that before spending even more money to cancel a contract/buy a new phone.
Here is a link to the thread (There are also several youtube videos and even a tutorial on this site that will walk you the setup):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544101
March 4th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
did u try the audio control hidden menu? it might help.
March 4th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Now that WM 6.5 won’t be coming out until April (at the earliest), I’ll probably end up going with trashcan’s rom.
Audio control hidden menu? Hey, funny!
March 4th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
The audio control hidden menu was a blessing – no more volume issues!
As for the phone sometimes not waking up – this really hasn’t been a big deal for me. It usually happens once every 2-3 months and I have to reseat the battery and reboot. Would love to fix that, but I don’t really have anything to go off of to see what’s causing it.
March 4th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
I remember using the hidden audio control, that was fine and all, but it didn’t fix the issue where the volume would disappear. I regularly place my phone on vibrate, and the issue seems to happen after switching from vibrate to ring. A few times a week the audio will not work until I rebooted. Doesn’t happen consistently so I cannot determine what is causing the glitch.
The phone wakeup thing probably happens 3-5 times a week. Have to take the battery out, back in, boot up to fix that.
Hoping WM 6.5 somehow corrects these issues, along with a few minor ones.
March 4th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
I can attest to the fact that Trashcan’s 6.5 ROM has alleviated the “random reboot” issue for me, as well as a few others.
It’s not perfect, but it DEFINITELY helps take the Epix from “holy shit, this phone is cordially invited to lick the sweat off a dead reindeer’s balls!” to “holy shit, this phone is slightly usable, and remotely stable!” for me.
Your mileage may vary.
March 4th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
The Microsoft site now says the date is ‘APRIL 2010′.
Check it out:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
March 4th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Anyone know how to back up a ROM in case trashcan’s rom doesn’t float my boat?
Mine’s a pre-ID1 phone with the original AT&T firmware that happens to work fairly well. Has crashed only once since I bought it and the GPS works too. Battery life is measured in days.
This is the first phone I haven’t felt the need to hack…yet.
I’d like to save it and maybe upload it so others can benefit.
Thanks
March 5th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Also a dumb question, how do you tell if your phone had 1D1 update, I purchased it used.
March 5th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
TronBike, I personally installed TrashCan’s Clean 6.1 rom (320×320 is terrible for 6.5, if you ask me), and as such, am hoping that 6.5 on the Epix offers some tweaks to it to make it nicer on the unusual screen size. tbird635, TrashCan should be able to instruct you on how to dump your rom.
March 5th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
jduk, the audio issue may be related to alarms. I tried using my Epix as an alarm clock, only to find it not waking me up, nor having volume when I finally did wake. Turning the alarm off, having it off for a good few months, I’ve only lost audio twice, but I’ve had a few abnormalities, such as if you recieve multiple calls (to where one hangs up just as the other starts), the audio can start playing through the ear piece with no fix beyond restarting the device. This leads me to believe the issue is with the audio driver or chipset.
March 5th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Fact: Porkenhimer can only use his phone as a coaster, much the way i use my old Pentium chips.
Fact: If there were no trolls there would be no bridges for them to live under
Fact: I don’t use bridges, they scare me, and there are trolls under them
Fiction: “My Epix with the new 6.5 update is awesome, fixed all my problems, and brought me respect within my community”
Fact: My local AT&T store has plastic adds on all the walls, no sheetrock to be found.
Fact: Porkenhimer was right, i won’t be throwing my phone thru the wall
Fact: Porkenhimer is a sage among men
Fact: I like this fact thing
Fact: Spell check and a high school education go a long way toward sounding intelligent.
Fact: There should be licenses for using the internet, just like drivers licenses.
Fraud: Samsung
Fred: Flintstone
Frieda: Unabrow
Fahrenheit : Damn it’s gettin’ hot in here
Flatulence: Porkenhimer did it.
Fin:
March 5th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
@Xzit, to find out what version is installed on your Epix,
- go to Start, Settings,
- go to the System tab,
- select Version.
If your PDA and Phone version both end in ID1, then you have the ID1 patch.
March 5th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Yup it is a conspiracy. They’ll release the update AFTER I have the ability to get a new phone. Oh well. And as for Trashcan’s 6.5… it works fine. There’s still some oddball issues that pop up… in ability to wake (remove battery to resolve) usually stems from leaving Opera open and it going into power save. GPS staying on or taking 5min to lock, never fixed and never will be until a proper update to the phone.bin is made. Trashcan fixed the PDA but a bunch of the issues that ID1 tried to fix and/or introduced are all in the phone.bin that covers the hardware itself.
And how about the other random issues, like touch screens just not working (and keep in mind that on the SO’s phone does work in that it is sensing something, but it can’t register an actual location of where it was touched), sound files ON THE ROM reporting back that they are corrupted and mysteriously work after a hard reset. It’s these things that we all complain about and just point out the fact that the Epix was rushed out the door early, and only half baked in testing and component use/coding.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Has anyone (with another WM device) tried to install Android? I saw this article about booting Android on several HTC models: http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/how-to-dual-boot-windows-mobile-and-android
March 6th, 2010 at 5:32 am
@samblackjack, I tried andromnia (http://andromnia.sourceforge.net/), it kinda booted and then hung on some shutdown screen. It only used 3/4 of the screen so it thinks it is 240×320 screen. It has potential but it needs much more love from developers to be even remotely usable on Epix. It is easy to try.
In beginning of March I got tired of waiting for official update and installed Trashcan’s 28008 ROM. I should have done it when it was released. The phone is so much better and so far it did not hang on me like it did with ID1.
GPS only works in standalone mode, there is the mouse cursor problem (easily curable by binding chfingermouse to fn-something). I have noticed one snag though. While wifi works quite well with WPA2 etc, I had the wifi UI hang with 802.1x PEAP-MSCHAP that used to work with ID1, it just asked for domain and username, never for the password.
So, in short. Trashcan made my phone usable.
March 7th, 2010 at 3:06 am
I have noticed that the volume will usually disappear if I force the phone to sleep with the power button on the side without turning the screen lock on. Also if I let the phone go to sleep by itself the volume will be fine. If I let the display dim and then hit the power button to put it to sleep, the volume will not disappear. In short, if you lock the screen and then put it to sleep it will not lose the sound. I think the problem has to do with the way the power button forces the phone to sleep. When the screen dims or is locked it somehow prepares the phone for sleep. When you force it to sleep before the dimming or lock it must be skipping some important step which causes the volume to disappear. The locking of the screen has eliminated my random loss of sound.
March 7th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
what is the link for for Trashcan’s 28008 ROM??????
March 8th, 2010 at 10:53 am
I have a unlocked refurbished Epix and have lots of trouble on daily basis, even after ID1 update: phone freezes every time i touch mouse button.
Also, it losts date and time every time i turn it off (or battery is pulled out, performed at least 5 times a day).
GPS does not work.
I’m performing hard resets almost every day (through PWR+h or through menus).
Can’t stand it anymore. Can’t wait anymore for Microsoft, Samsung and AT&T.
STUPID, BUT UNAVOIDABLE QUESTIONS:
1) ID1 update will avoid me to update to Trashcan’s 6.5 28008 cooked version?
2) At time (actually, IF) MS/Samsung finally releases this official version, will i be able to install it on my Epix?
3) Is there any harm on using GrandPrix 1.9.2 version, instead of 1.6.4? I’m a Windows XP SP3 user.
Thanks to everyone.
March 8th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
April 2010 ????? !!!!!
Well my plan will be up in May, sooooo I’ll be switching to something else.
I’ll think twice about buying another Samsung, or any other new phone from ATT, unless it has been well proven first.
March 8th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Did they ever fix the GPS on these babies?
Windows 6.5 isn’t much, if you ask me. The question for Epix users is whether the software will finally work.
I was able to swap my Epix for a Tilt 2, because it kept fritzing on me. Although the Tilt 2 is stable and probably a better phone, I still miss my epix. I miss the mouse. I miss the (nonsliding) keyboard. I liked the square screen. If I could get another one, and be fairly certain it would work, I’d get it in a heartbeat.
March 9th, 2010 at 4:49 am
@Hank http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544101
@Marcio damn, yours is even worse than mine. I only had mine hang once every several days.
Run \Windows\GPSTest.exe and set GPS mode to standalone. the broken GPS is because aGPS doesn’t work and device.exe spins at 100% utilization like crazy trying to connect to network. standalone mode switches off aGPS.
AFAIK it should be possible to install Samsung update on Trashcan’s ROM and you can also flash back to ID1 or use clean Trashcan ID1 ROM too. My Epix is much more stable with Trashcan’s ROM and it looks like you don’t have anything to lose anyway ;-(.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Marcio:
Also try the command line reset instead of a normal hard reset. I know it sounds crazy but it cleans the memory better and can correct stubborn recurring issues. It helped me. Here are the instructions:
Backup your data. Type in *2767*3855# and follow the instructions. I did the reset twice to make sure everything was reset. Then make sure you set the GPStest as mentioned in the previous post and reload your programs and data.
I think you’ll be surprised at how well the Epix will work.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
@0xDEADBEEF Thanks for the info on Andromnia. It looks like I can try it via the MicroSD card and not have to really reset my Epix. So I think I’ll give it a try.
I’m tempted to try Trashcan’s ROM, mainly because I want to try WM6.5. Thankfully, my Epix works pretty well, and only freezes rarely – maybe once every month. My touchscreen stops working on occasion as well, but again, it only happens every few weeks. Otherwise I love my Epix. I guess I’m lucky that I haven’t seen the same type of issues I’ve heard about here.